tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post5429791282152310864..comments2023-09-16T03:11:06.126-07:00Comments on Philosophies of Men Mingled With Scripture: Science Flies You To The Moon. Religion Flies You Into Buildings.Cristofer Urlaubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-30612864595228404652012-05-28T23:28:04.269-07:002012-05-28T23:28:04.269-07:00I don't think that's the point of the shir...I don't think that's the point of the shirt. I think the point of the shirt is to push a certain perspective on the viewer of it, as described above. It's propaganda. But hey, you're welcome to your interpretation.<br /><br />I also don't think the "religion" is based on ignorance. Certainly, certain religions are, but not religion as a whole. For example, I joined the denomination I did specifically because they never tried to feed me that tripe about how "some things we are just not meant to understand." Education and the eternal quest for knowledge are vitally important. I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm sure there are many denominations that encourage their members to learn and gain as much knowledge as possible. I agree, though, that are some pretty ridiculous theists who seem to view stubborn ignorance as a badge of honor.<br /><br />I also agree that science is based on shared and verifiable knowledge that humanity can use to achieve great things, but that's the best case scenario. You're taking the worst of religion and the best of science in order to show that science is superior. Your comparison shows your bias. If you do that, you can make anything seem better or worse than anything else. For example, I can say that religion is based on unconditional love for your neighbor, humanitarianism and the eternal search for knowledge and truth, no mater where it leads you. Science on the other hand is based on finding bigger, better ways for people to kill each other. See how easy that is? You can't just compare the worst of one thing to the best of another and call it fair, or even objective.<br /><br />I think you do understand this, because you admit that science has also been misused, but you say that the tragedies which science has caused are somehow better because they were not in the name of science. In response to this, I invite you to look into eugenics. Eugenics was considered a legitamate science and was widely popular in the early 1900s. Eugenics was a widely accepted scientific idea, but was it not based on ignorance? And did that ignorance not kill many, many people?Cristofer Urlaubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-70544329403429740662012-05-28T20:15:57.245-07:002012-05-28T20:15:57.245-07:00I think you miss the point of the shirt. Religion...I think you miss the point of the shirt. Religion is based on ignorance and as such can be used to justify pretty much anything. It should therefore be of little surprise that some people in the name of religion fly into buildings with the intent to kill as many people as possible. Science on the other hand is based on shared and verifiable knowledge that humanity can use to achieve great things such as landing on the moon. That science can be misused is a given, but the misuse is never in the name of science. Religion, with its faith based epistemology however almost guarantees that the most vile of acts will be done in its name. That's what the shirt is saying. Religion is superstition, superstition is ignorance, ignorance kills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-22496408480869267992012-04-13T23:07:42.187-07:002012-04-13T23:07:42.187-07:00That may be true, but that doesn't make the gr...That may be true, but that doesn't make the graphic make any more sense. The point of this post is just that the graphic doesn't make sense.<br /><br />Also, the same can be said about science. For example, humanitarian efforts and charitable donations "that sort of thing all save innumerable lives while [science] has been used and continues to be used as the validation of genocides all over the world."<br /><br />Anyway, I believe I admitted above that the stats were incomplete (3rd paragraph until "Clearly, there's more to consider than aviation." Everything after that if simply hypothetical, as indicated by the phrase "even if we were" at the beginning of the next paragraph).<br /><br />Please read more carefully. Thanks for commenting, though.Cristofer Urlaubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-69372686860903439602012-04-13T14:33:56.381-07:002012-04-13T14:33:56.381-07:00Religion has a pretty high body count that you see...Religion has a pretty high body count that you seem to be ignoring, I would bet that religion has been responsible for more deaths throughout our short time on this planet than science. For example the vaccine for Malaria, cholesterol lowering drugs that sort of thing all save innumerable lives while religion has been used and continues to be used as the validation of genocides all over the world. Religious warriors use the tools of science as implements of war to kill each other in the name of their fictitious gods...you need a better argument that is a little fuller.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-16042028449016228902012-04-12T18:31:02.522-07:002012-04-12T18:31:02.522-07:00Very good point. Thank you very much for your comm...Very good point. Thank you very much for your comment!Cristofer Urlaubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-39193181142234596482012-04-03T13:40:35.887-07:002012-04-03T13:40:35.887-07:00Thank you from Denmark for some very valid and ver...Thank you from Denmark for some very valid and very good points.<br /><br />You could add that probably no human project has ever been more soaked in Christanity than the Apollo-project:<br />JFK asking for Gods blessing in his initial project declaration<br />The first-orbiters in Apollo 8 reading the book of genesis (catch it on tube)<br />Buzz Aldrin taking the communion - becomming one with Christ on the moon - just prior to Neils first steps.<br />And several more points could be made to the case - not forget the millions and millions of prayers for the project from christians around the world.<br /><br />Flying to the moon sure was a true joint-venture between Science and Christianity!Christian Provstgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10049341477581692974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-51494521567576345732012-04-02T06:23:10.776-07:002012-04-02T06:23:10.776-07:00You make a great point; the slogan should specify ...You make a great point; the slogan should specify "fundamentalist religions" as this specifies extremists that reject rationality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-67575358733559004432012-03-25T10:18:58.907-07:002012-03-25T10:18:58.907-07:00Thank you very much!Thank you very much!Cristofer Urlaubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-48841396564459380832012-03-25T07:12:25.047-07:002012-03-25T07:12:25.047-07:00I just found your site. I love your thinking.I just found your site. I love your thinking.SJBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09783943238921553042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-74213147712403268952012-03-04T12:13:03.205-08:002012-03-04T12:13:03.205-08:00Heh, yeah. Keep in mind though that that's 2,...Heh, yeah. Keep in mind though that that's 2,000 airplane accidents out of almost 200 million. You would have to fly every day for almost 200 years before you could expect an accident.Cristofer Urlaubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-80805205703694101792012-03-04T11:40:07.477-08:002012-03-04T11:40:07.477-08:00I wasn't that thrilled to fly before, and the ...I wasn't that thrilled to fly before, and the last stat you shared makes me even more reluctant. But wait... you already gave the car accident statistic. Not leaving the house now. (Please don't share any stats on indoor air pollution. j/k)Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07729691287229935563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-42007204362185374842012-03-02T23:19:54.458-08:002012-03-02T23:19:54.458-08:00Thank you for commenting! I agree that people just...Thank you for commenting! I agree that people just need something to blame. It's part of finding closure, but we should be careful that we place the blame where it lies. <br /><br />Sure, religion may have been a factor in 9/11, but there were dozens of factors. To say that it was "religion" that flew those planes into the towers is just absurd.Cristofer Urlaubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001401371451376407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1482258322937378632.post-30911687212411649562012-03-02T20:50:54.817-08:002012-03-02T20:50:54.817-08:00Extremely valid points.
I disagree with the motto...Extremely valid points. <br />I disagree with the motto of the shirt, but I believe it is all product of human nature. <br />People have to have something to blame and that blame shifts dependent upon the situation at hand. <br />I've never seen the photo before and it saddens me that I have now. I did enjoy reading your points of view and agree.Tamsnoreply@blogger.com